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Jun. 14th, 2010 09:18 pm
diamondintherough: (greased lightning)
[personal profile] diamondintherough
-FILTERED AWAY FROM VAMPIRES + Tony Foster + Dr Hix-
When's something going to be done about the vampires, huh? One of them killed me not long ago, and more than just me by the sound of it. You keep saying they're taken care of, but nothing happened to him. I think he's gone now, alright? No punishment, no anything.

As ek wou sterf nie, sou ek bly in Afrika, huh? Ek wil nie hier bly nie. How about I go to dem moordenaar and get me some dem weapons, huh?

You hate vampires as much as I do? You let me know. We see if we can't get some oplossings. 'Results', huh?

Date: 2010-06-15 06:18 am (UTC)
with_discipline: (I'm listening. Really.)
From: [personal profile] with_discipline
He was already in level zero by the time we were assigned. Your need to place blame is unnecessary.

Date: 2010-06-15 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diamondtherough.livejournal.com
Trying to get answers, not place blame. Seems that's what the wardens like doing. I was hoping you could tell me more about what might have helped stop him so we can use it on the others.

Date: 2010-06-15 06:23 am (UTC)
with_discipline: (Shut your face I'm logicing)
From: [personal profile] with_discipline
Very well. As I said, however, the pairing process is strongly individualized; it would seem that one vampire here is not like another. There have been vampire wardens.

I did not have the chance to learn much from Armand before he vanished.

Date: 2010-06-15 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diamondtherough.livejournal.com
Still feed off human blood, far as I'm aware.

Any idea who his last warden was, huh?

Date: 2010-06-15 06:27 am (UTC)
with_discipline: (excuse me but wtf are you doing)
From: [personal profile] with_discipline
My people are vegetarians. It took time for me to acclimate to humanity's carnivorous tendencies.

I believe a Mister Bourne, but I am not certain.

Date: 2010-06-15 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diamondtherough.livejournal.com
I could become a vegetarian if I wanted to and survive just fine. Vampires can't.

Thanks.

Date: 2010-06-15 02:35 pm (UTC)
with_discipline: (Shut your face I'm logicing)
From: [personal profile] with_discipline
You must learn to objectify other cultures so that you know when it is appropriate to interfere, and when it is not. The crimes Armand committed were wrong, and deserved punishment; that does not mean every vampire is guilty simply for being what they are.

Date: 2010-06-15 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diamondtherough.livejournal.com
I've gotten pretty good at objectifying cultures when I need to, all right?

-PRIVATE-

Vampires are guilty for being what they are. Until they can live on something other than humans, I'm not going to change my mind about that.

[Private]

Date: 2010-06-15 05:46 pm (UTC)
with_discipline: (Your actions bother me.)
From: [personal profile] with_discipline
This facade is unnecessary. They are as they are, and should not be held responsible for the necessities for their survival. The Admiral provides them with sustenance, and it is not necessary for them to completely drain a body of blood in order to survive.

Vampires have served as wardens, and they have graduated. Your bias is creating further problems.

[Private]

Date: 2010-06-16 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diamondtherough.livejournal.com
And what happens when they leave this ship or the blood runs out again, huh? They still drink blood, whether the Admiral provides the magic food for now or not. If the survival of their species means I have to be hurt or die? Then ja, I'm going to blame them and I'm going to do everything in my power to get rid of them.

This has nothing to do with wardens or inmates.

[Private]

Date: 2010-06-16 03:35 pm (UTC)
with_discipline: (I'm listening. Really.)
From: [personal profile] with_discipline
No, it is entirely to do with your speciest view. If they can sustain themselves without hurting or killing you, would you maintain this opinion?

[Private]

Date: 2010-06-16 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diamondtherough.livejournal.com
Ja, sure. Call it whatever you want to, huh? If they could sustain themselves without hurting or killing any of us humans, I would change my mind.

[Private]

Date: 2010-06-16 06:35 pm (UTC)
with_discipline: (Shut up and let me explain this)
From: [personal profile] with_discipline
Then perhaps you should speak to them. I believe that they are capable of doing just that; it would explain their warden status.

I've learned in my time here that humans are capable of terrible crimes; but I do not believe that every human will commit such crimes at any given moment.

[Private]

Date: 2010-06-17 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diamondtherough.livejournal.com
The wardens still drink blood.

Humans are easy to understand. Maybe because I am one, sure, but that doesn't change my opinion of vampires.

[Private]

Date: 2010-06-18 02:37 pm (UTC)
with_discipline: (Shut your face I'm logicing)
From: [personal profile] with_discipline
And manage to do so without harming those aboard the ship.

It is easy to understand one's own species. The difficulty is in understanding another's.

[Private]

Date: 2010-06-18 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diamondtherough.livejournal.com
Only when there's blood provided for them.

Ja. Hard empathizing with them when they survive by hurting yours too, huh?

[Private]

Date: 2010-06-19 01:40 am (UTC)
with_discipline: (Will cut you. If this was a knife.)
From: [personal profile] with_discipline
Perhaps you should speak to some of them, and find out if this is the only time they avoid murder.

[Private]

Date: 2010-06-22 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diamondtherough.livejournal.com
I'll do that. Just for you, huh?

[Private]

Date: 2010-06-22 03:04 am (UTC)
with_discipline: (Wait let me consider this bullshit.)
From: [personal profile] with_discipline
Indeed. [She doesn't buy it. :|]

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